Wednesday Apr 19, 2023

Solid Strategies to Deal With Post-COVID Apathy

Franciene Sabens, MS Ed., LPC, NCC, School Counselor


Franciene is a rural southern Illinois high school counselor with over 15 years of experience. She was named Illinois high school counselor of the year in 2014 and honored by ASCA in 2016 at the White House as the Illinois state representative for the School Counselor of the Year ceremony. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of IL, a National Certified Counselor and an ASCA Mental Health Specialist. Franciene blogs at School Counselor Space, has contributed to publications by CNN, NPR and Voice of a America, and is a frequent and well respected national presenter who is passionate about helping school counselors implement comprehensive school counseling programs that meet students' changing needs while supporting them to reach their greatest potential.



What is the most challenging mental health issue in your school or district right now?: Apathy


Non-cognitive Assessment


“The happiness of always being busy”


How is mental health currently addressed in your school(s), and what are the limitations?: School counseling sevices, social work services, wrap around, and community mental health services.


What are a few points you'd like to cover relating to school mental health improvement? 

-To always remember everyone is going through something

-we have to work as a team to prevent large scale mental health concerns in the school setting

-student behaviors are just a sign to let us know there is a story to be told


Get tips and tools on Franciene’s blog for school counselors to use when addressing non-suicidal self-harm situations.


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